While Im suprise that you want to investigate SLKR vs LV situation I can only ask you to be consistent. SEE can undersize Rey and JML LogIn·CreateAccount Home Discussions BestOf... StarWarsGalaxyofHeroesForums›GeneralDiscussion Newplayer?Checkoutthenewplayerindex InvestigateotherGLstoo-theycanundersize Prev123456Next Go papaofmom146postsMember January13,202210:30AM WhileImsuprisethatyouwanttoinvestigateSLKRvsLVsituationIcanonlyaskyoutobeconsistent. SEEcanundersizeReyandJML SLKRcanalsoundersizeSEE JMKcanundersizeSEEandotherstoo ReyprobablycanundersizesomeotherteamswCATtoo Beconsistentatyourinvestigations. 11 Replies RoopeRenegade125postsMember January13,202210:36AM Exactly. SEE+1candefeatotherGLstoo. That+1alsodoesn'thavetobeSith,soifCGisworriedaboutthecrossfactionthere,theyshouldchangeSEE'scrossfactionundersizeheretoo. 0 Itsa_me_Malario963postsMember January13,202210:39AM SlKRcansoloSEEnotundersizeit.😆 LVcangetdestroyedbyimptrooperswithacleansfromshaakti. SEEbasicallyisa3manteamonlyneedsarmorerandwat. 4 xGriiMErZ694postsMember January13,202210:49AM Whatyou'remissingifthefactthatLVisthenewestandtheonlyonetheycareaboutprotecting,therestdonotmatter. DoyoureallythinktheycareaboutSLKRsoloingSEE? 5 flux_rono1624postsMember January13,202210:55AM idonthavemuchexperienceinthesefights,butI'massumingtherekeytermof"constantly"hassomethingtodowithmySLKRisbeinglookedintoandnottheotherspointedout. forexampleSEEcanundersizeReybutifshehasalotofoffensethatcouldfail.andforSEEbeatingJMLIimagineismoreofanexpectedonesinceheismeanttocounterjedi 0 Sithlords_Inc343postsMember January13,202211:34AM Ifthey'regoingtofixSEEundermaningReyandJMLtheywouldhavetoreworkhisentirekit.Thereasonpeopleundermanwithhimisbecauseanyteammatesunderhimthatisntarmorer/wataredeadweightthatwillonlyloseyoubanners.Iforonewouldntmindiftheygavehimsomeactualsynergywithsithalliesthatpreventedthemfrombeingabsolutefodderunderhislead.HislinkmechanicsarealsothereasonhegetssolodbySLKRandRey+Wat.SadlyIdontseeCGputtinganywherenearthatamountofresourcesonSEE. 1 MF607634postsMember January13,20226:46PM xGriiMErZwrote:» Whatyou'remissingifthefactthatLVisthenewestandtheonlyonetheycareaboutprotecting,therestdonotmatter. DoyoureallythinktheycareaboutSLKRsoloingSEE? WiththatlogictheywouldhavefixedSLKRsolovsSEEwhenSEEwasreleased 2 Artumas252postsMember January13,20227:43PM papaofmomwrote:» WhileImsuprisethatyouwanttoinvestigateSLKRvsLVsituationIcanonlyaskyoutobeconsistent. SEEcanundersizeReyandJML SLKRcanalsoundersizeSEE JMKcanundersizeSEEandotherstoo ReyprobablycanundersizesomeotherteamswCATtoo Beconsistentatyourinvestigations. Rey+Watcanpracticallyduoanynon-metaJMLsetup.Sure,Watdies,but... AndtheteamcaneasilyfullautoliterallyanyJMLleadteamifyouthrowextratargetsontheteamsoReyrampsuptokillingpower. Reycaneasilyundersizeanynon-CATJMKteaminexistencew/CAT. Reywiththerightlineupcanundersizeby1non-maulLVteams. Reycan3-manSLKRthesedaysduetohishorrendousAI.It'sgenerallynot100%consistent,butit'sconsistentenoughtomatterIMHO. OndefensePadme+CATcanbeataplayer-controlledSLKRteam. Ihonestlydon'tthinktheSLKRvsLVthingisatallamajorissue.EveryoneknowsthatLVisn'texactlyworththeinvestmentcomparedwithliterallyeveryotherGL,andwhencomparingtheirkits,SLKRkindofISthe"intendedhardcounter"mechanics-wiseTankystall-orientedteamsarecounteredbythemassiveramp-updamageteam.That'sjusthowthoseinteractionstendtoworkinanygame.AndtheSLKR/ZombiesynergyhasbeenknownforaLONGtimenow,andLVwasn'tgivengoodenoughtauntcircumventiontogetaroundit.(Maul'stauntcircumventionisonlyactivewhenhe'satmaxanguish-meaningoneattackandit'sbacktozombie,andLVhimselfdoesn'tseemtoevenHAVEtauntcircumventioncapabilitiesanywhereinhiskitunlessI'mjustderpingandtotallymissingit.) Ithinkit'saneasyenoughfixbyjustgivingLVsomekindofdecenttauntcircumvention-evenjustsomethinglikeDSUFUsunderLV'sleadignoretauntagainstdarksideenemies.-ButIreallyjustdon'tthinkit'sactuallysomethingthatneedstobeaddressed.LVgenerallysucksondefenseinthebracketswherepeopleareactuallygoingtobeseeinghimregularly.It'sthesamereasontheSEEissuesarefine-Again,nooneshouldreallyeverbeputtinghimondefense. 1 xGriiMErZ694postsMember January13,20227:47PM MF6076wrote:» xGriiMErZwrote:» Whatyou'remissingifthefactthatLVisthenewestandtheonlyonetheycareaboutprotecting,therestdonotmatter. DoyoureallythinktheycareaboutSLKRsoloingSEE? WiththatlogictheywouldhavefixedSLKRsolovsSEEwhenSEEwasreleased BothSEEandJMLhadbeentossedasideassoonastheywerereleased 3 Vos_Landeck1666postsMember January13,20227:54PM editedJanuary13 xGriiMErZwrote:» Whatyou'remissingifthefactthatLVisthenewestandtheonlyonetheycareaboutprotecting,therestdonotmatter. ButtheyareokaywithTroopers+ShaakbeatingLV?AtleasttheSLKR/NScounterrequiresaGL. 1 Legend912138postsMember January13,20228:10PM Vos_Landeckwrote:» xGriiMErZwrote:» Whatyou'remissingifthefactthatLVisthenewestandtheonlyonetheycareaboutprotecting,therestdonotmatter. ButtheyareokaywithTroopers+ShaakbeatingLV?AtleasttheSLKR/NScounterrequiresaGL. It'snotlikethereareeasywaystostopit... 0 pånøs143postsMember January13,20228:56PM AndnewIdenladyiskillingR9LV+Maulunderveerslead. Goodtestingasusual.ZERO!Welldone! 3 CG_Doja_Fett_MINI503postsSWGOHDevTeam›EACommunityManager January13,20229:24PM It'snotsimplyaboutthesquadbeingundersized.GLscan(andshouldbeable)tobeatotherGLs.It'smoresothataGL+Conquestcharacteristhecurrentpinnacle,andtheyshouldnotbedefeatedbyaGLinamuchweakersquad. 4 SquiffyChad23postsMember January13,20229:27PM WhichIunderstand,Ido,butcanwenotbuffLVmoreinsteadofnerfingotherteams? 12 pånøs143postsMember January13,20229:27PM CG_Doja_Fett_MINIwrote:» It'snotsimplyaboutthesquadbeingundersized.GLscan(andshouldbeable)tobeatotherGLs.It'smoresothataGL+Conquestcharacteristhecurrentpinnacle,andtheyshouldnotbedefeatedbyaGLinamuchweakersquad. Thanksforchippingin,arewethenexpectingtoseechangesthatpreventIdenVersioaswell? 2 rocket142015postsMember January13,20229:29PM Legend91wrote:» Vos_Landeckwrote:» xGriiMErZwrote:» Whatyou'remissingifthefactthatLVisthenewestandtheonlyonetheycareaboutprotecting,therestdonotmatter. ButtheyareokaywithTroopers+ShaakbeatingLV?AtleasttheSLKR/NScounterrequiresaGL. It'snotlikethereareeasywaystostopit... "Opponentscan'tgainbonusturnmeter."Fixed 1 Gale_Toral83postsMember January13,20229:41PM Whenthecounterwasfirstmadepublic,ItalkedaboutanothereasyfixtoShaakTibeingachangetohercleansetoonlyaffectJediandGalacticRepublicallies.AsfarasI'maware,thisshouldn'taffect99%oftheteamsshe'susedin. IthinkwehavetorememberthatGLsaredesignedinaveryspecificway,andthatbooststotheirkitmightnegativelyimpactfuturereleases. RegardingtheSLKRNightsisterissue.ZombieshouldonlyreviveiftheleaderisaNightsister.NochangetoSLKRthatway. 3 SinisterSandman98postsMember January13,20229:42PM CG_Doja_Fett_MINIwrote:» It'snotsimplyaboutthesquadbeingundersized.GLscan(andshouldbeable)tobeatotherGLs.It'smoresothataGL+Conquestcharacteristhecurrentpinnacle,andtheyshouldnotbedefeatedbyaGLinamuchweakersquad. Aslongasit'sstillaGLforaGLwhhdoesitmatteraboutthesquadthatsurroundseach?GLPalpandWathavebeenathingforfarlonger.SynergyandstrategyshouldalwaystrumpGP. "Thedarkside,thelight...bothhavemerit.Whynothalfofeach...?"-Harvey"Two-Face"Dent7 CG_Doja_Fett_MINI503postsSWGOHDevTeam›EACommunityManager January13,20229:49PM SinisterSandmanwrote:» CG_Doja_Fett_MINIwrote:» It'snotsimplyaboutthesquadbeingundersized.GLscan(andshouldbeable)tobeatotherGLs.It'smoresothataGL+Conquestcharacteristhecurrentpinnacle,andtheyshouldnotbedefeatedbyaGLinamuchweakersquad. Aslongasit'sstillaGLforaGLwhhdoesitmatteraboutthesquadthatsurroundseach?GLPalpandWathavebeenathingforfarlonger.SynergyandstrategyshouldalwaystrumpGP. IthinkthedistinguishingfactoristheinclusionofaConquestunitpairedwiththeGL.Thosetwounitstogetherrepresentthepinnacle. 0 CG_Doja_Fett_MINI503postsSWGOHDevTeam›EACommunityManager January13,20229:51PM pånøswrote:» CG_Doja_Fett_MINIwrote:» It'snotsimplyaboutthesquadbeingundersized.GLscan(andshouldbeable)tobeatotherGLs.It'smoresothataGL+Conquestcharacteristhecurrentpinnacle,andtheyshouldnotbedefeatedbyaGLinamuchweakersquad. Thanksforchippingin,arewethenexpectingtoseechangesthatpreventIdenVersioaswell? Haven'theardanythingfromdevsideregardingIden.IfIdo,I'llbesuretoletyaknow. 0 rocket142015postsMember January13,20229:53PM IfLV/Maulissupposedtobethepinnacle,youguysneedtogobacktothedrawingbaord. 16 CG_Doja_Fett_MINI503postsSWGOHDevTeam›EACommunityManager January13,20229:54PM SquiffyChadwrote:» WhichIunderstand,Ido,butcanwenotbuffLVmoreinsteadofnerfingotherteams? Wedon'tliketomakechangestokitspost-launchifwecanavoidit.So,it'snotdonelightly...whichmeansI'msurealloptionswereconsidered. 1 HanSolonoid74postsMember January13,20229:54PM editedJanuary13 CG_Doja_Fett_MINIwrote:» pånøswrote:» CG_Doja_Fett_MINIwrote:» It'snotsimplyaboutthesquadbeingundersized.GLscan(andshouldbeable)tobeatotherGLs.It'smoresothataGL+Conquestcharacteristhecurrentpinnacle,andtheyshouldnotbedefeatedbyaGLinamuchweakersquad. Thanksforchippingin,arewethenexpectingtoseechangesthatpreventIdenVersioaswell? Haven'theardanythingfromdevsideregardingIden.IfIdo,I'llbesuretoletyaknow. WiththetrooperteamsthathadasketchyLVclear,takeShaakTioutandit’saneasyclear. Trooperscan’tbeatthefullLVMaulteamwithoutthemtakingasingleturn. 0 Ultra8787postsModerator January13,20229:55PM pånøswrote:» CG_Doja_Fett_MINIwrote:» It'snotsimplyaboutthesquadbeingundersized.GLscan(andshouldbeable)tobeatotherGLs.It'smoresothataGL+Conquestcharacteristhecurrentpinnacle,andtheyshouldnotbedefeatedbyaGLinamuchweakersquad. Thanksforchippingin,arewethenexpectingtoseechangesthatpreventIdenVersioaswell? Afaikthatteamonlyworkswithoutpiettsoit’snotthemostidealLVteam 0 HanSolonoid74postsMember January13,20229:56PM VeersPiettDTRangeandIdendeletes LVMaulStormTooperRoyalGuardVader Withoutthemtakingaturn.AnonGLtakingoutaGLwithouttheGLtakingaturn 4 Gurken22postsMember January13,20229:56PM editedJanuary13 Butbeforeconquestcharacters,wouldn'tJML(GL),JKR(Heroic),GAS(Epicconfrontation),JKL(whateverhe'sconsidered),andWat/Hyoda(TB)beenconsideredthepinnacle?ButSEE+Watwasabletobeputonautoagainstthatteam 5 rocket142015postsMember January13,20229:57PM HanSolonoidwrote:» CG_Doja_Fett_MINIwrote:» pånøswrote:» CG_Doja_Fett_MINIwrote:» It'snotsimplyaboutthesquadbeingundersized.GLscan(andshouldbeable)tobeatotherGLs.It'smoresothataGL+Conquestcharacteristhecurrentpinnacle,andtheyshouldnotbedefeatedbyaGLinamuchweakersquad. Thanksforchippingin,arewethenexpectingtoseechangesthatpreventIdenVersioaswell? Haven'theardanythingfromdevsideregardingIden.IfIdo,I'llbesuretoletyaknow. WiththetrooperteamsthathadasketchyLVclear,takeShaakTioutandit’saneasyclear. Trooperscan’tbeatthefullLVMaulteamwithoutthemtakingasingleturn. Ahnaldt101doesn'texistintheirworld. 3 TheDude420179postsMember January13,20229:57PM ThisisaslipperyslopethatCGshouldhavenevergonedown. 10 HanSolonoid74postsMember January13,20229:58PM editedJanuary13 Youknowwhatguys.Don’tscrewwithIden.Don’tscrewwithKylo.BuffLV.It’sobviousyouwanthimgreat,andheisn’t,sobuffhim.Stopchangingeverythingelsetosuithim.YounerfedWat,Luke,Thrawn,andGasallforhim.Justsohisonething,hishighhealth,wouldn’tbeshreddedthrough.Youbuiltanalltankytypeteam;thatwouldn’twork,changedeverythingthatwouldreallymesswiththetanky-ness,itdidn’twork. StopreinventingeverytooninthisgametofixLordVader.FixLordVader.Jesuswept. 18 Ryanh131578postsMember January13,202210:03PM HanSolonoidwrote:» Youknowwhatguys.Don’tscrewwithIden.Don’tscrewwithKylo.BuffLV.It’sobviousyouwanthimgreat,andheisn’t,sobuffhim.Stopchangingeverythingelsetosuithim.YounerfedWat,Luke,Thrawn,andGasallforhim.Justsohisonething,hishighhealth,wouldn’tbeshreddedthrough.Youbuiltanalltankytypeteam;thatwouldn’twork,changedeverythingthatwouldreallymesswiththetanky-ness,itdidn’twork. StopreinventingeverytooninthisgametofixLordVader.FixLordVader.Jesuswept. Agreed.LordVaderrequirescriticalunitsfromfartoomanyteamstoevenbeabletocontendattheechelonofpowerthatJMK/CAThave,andhe'sstillnotworththeinvestment.Idon'teventhinkwe'reinbuffterritoryanymore,Ithinkhehonestlyneedsafullrework(hopefullywithbetteranimations). 3 ReplytothistopicPrev123456Next Go SignInorRegistertocomment. 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