Why Empower/Enhance/Enlighten 4 removed? - Forum

Legion/Sim is hardly nerfed at all in that regard. From the Patch Notes: "Level 4 versions can still be obtained from corruption and specific ... ForumIndex»FeedbackandSuggestions»ViewThreadViewStaffPostsPostReply WhyEmpower/Enhance/Enlighten4removed? Whatsthepointofthis?Alsogems21/23removedfromdropstoo?ThismeanthatLegion/Simulacrumtargetfarmisnerfedashell.IndamagebalanceIseesomelogicbutwhythis? LastbumpedonJul24,2021,10:53:48PM PostedbynikolaipkaonJul22,2021,11:27:54PMQuotethisPost idontthinkthoselevel4swereremoved...wheredoyouseethat?removing21/23gemsfromdropsissortoftryingtointroducenew"chase"intheformofluckygamblingcorruptions. Rememberthat21/20sSTILLDROP.Letsbehonest,thedifferencebetweena21/20anda21/23isalmostnegligibleinthegrandschemeofthings.Legion/Simishardlynerfedatallinthatregard. FromthePatchNotes:"Level4versionscanstillbeobtainedfromcorruptionandspecificDivinationCards." Lasteditedbyjsuslak313onJul23,2021,2:42:24AM Postedbyjsuslak313onJul23,2021,12:54:47AMQuotethisPost It'soneforkoftheirtwoself-contradictory(IMO)gamedesignphilosophies.TheoneforkthatIlike,too.Thatforkis:"theverybestsourceof[league]-specificrewardsshouldbe[league]-specificcontent."Essentially,theywantyoutogetthebestpossibleCorruptedoutcomesbyCorruptingthings,notdroppingfromunrelatedLeaguemechanics.(Yes,Iknowthecorruptingthingsisn'tactuallyaLeagueinitself.21/23wasdesignedtobeIncursion-specific,though,andCorruptionisauniquemechanicthatisLeague-likeinthiscontext). Theotherfork,whichIdon'tlike,is"anydropfromanysourceinthegameshouldpotentiallygiveyoumassiverewards,"akathewholeideaofdroppingaMirrorofKalandrafromarandombarrelyoubrokeinAct3TheDocksorsomethinglikethat.ThereasonIdon'tlikethisforkasmuchisthattheyreleasedboss-specificUniquedropstothegeneraldroppoolanditjustfeelssoboringandsmall.Obscurantis,Slivertongue,GrelwoodShank...thesewereallbasicallyvendortrashalready,butnowthey'renotevenspecialvendortrashanymore,they'rejustthesamekindofhomogeneoustrashasTheIgnomonorChernobog'sPillar.Sure,Icanstillappreciatethemaspiecesofloreorobscurebuildsorwhatever,butnowthey'redecidedlylessspecialasnonboss-specificUniques. Evidently,youpreferthesecondforkofdesignratherthanthefirstfork,atleastwhenitcomestogemdrops. Needgameinfo?CheckouttheWikiat:https://www.poewiki.net/ Contactsupport@grindinggear.comforaccountissues.CheckoutHowtoReportBugs+PostImagesat:https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/18347LasteditedbyadgharonJul23,2021,3:04:31AM PostedbyadgharonJul23,2021,3:02:56AMQuotethisPost " adgharwrote: Chernobog'sPillar Myemoscenegirlwitchcosplaydoesn'tmakeitself.Needthatshieldfortheskintransfer. Postedbyjack_aubreyonJul23,2021,3:58:32AMQuotethisPost wewerehavingtoomuchfunandtheyweren't. TADAAAAAAA PostedbyFSasakionJul23,2021,4:03:42AMQuotethisPost " adgharwrote: It'soneforkoftheirtwoself-contradictory(IMO)gamedesignphilosophies.TheoneforkthatIlike,too.Thatforkis:"theverybestsourceof[league]-specificrewardsshouldbe[league]-specificcontent."Essentially,theywantyoutogetthebestpossibleCorruptedoutcomesbyCorruptingthings,notdroppingfromunrelatedLeaguemechanics.(Yes,Iknowthecorruptingthingsisn'tactuallyaLeagueinitself.21/23wasdesignedtobeIncursion-specific,though,andCorruptionisauniquemechanicthatisLeague-likeinthiscontext). Theotherfork,whichIdon'tlike,is"anydropfromanysourceinthegameshouldpotentiallygiveyoumassiverewards,"akathewholeideaofdroppingaMirrorofKalandrafromarandombarrelyoubrokeinAct3TheDocksorsomethinglikethat.ThereasonIdon'tlikethisforkasmuchisthattheyreleasedboss-specificUniquedropstothegeneraldroppoolanditjustfeelssoboringandsmall.Obscurantis,Slivertongue,GrelwoodShank...thesewereallbasicallyvendortrashalready,butnowthey'renotevenspecialvendortrashanymore,they'rejustthesamekindofhomogeneoustrashasTheIgnomonorChernobog'sPillar.Sure,Icanstillappreciatethemaspiecesofloreorobscurebuildsorwhatever,butnowthey'redecidedlylessspecialasnonboss-specificUniques. Evidently,youpreferthesecondforkofdesignratherthanthefirstfork,atleastwhenitcomestogemdrops. thissecondoneskindofproblematicright?iagreewithyoucompletely,thereneedstobeareasontofarmaboss,theirspeciallootiskindofliketheleaguemechanicrewards,theyneedtobeexclusivetodoingthethinginordertogivethethingareasontobedone. idoalsogettheothersidethoanditssomethingivefeltmyselfisthatiplayamapandhaveliterally0hopeanythingwilldropworthwhile.thepeoplewhogetrichinleaguesspeedtospecificbossdropcontent,runthatbossdryoveraweekandthenthemarketissaturated,theleagueeconomyisdead,comebackin3monthstodoitagain.eveninagameasgarbageasdiablo3iplayanycontentandtheresachanceimgonnagetagoodprimalancientitemorsomething,itsthereanditactuallyhappens,itsnot'welltheresamirrorthatwillneverhappen,andthentheresnothing'. Iplaymapsforxp,therearenoitemsinthegameessentially.ipickup2chaosinamapandfindanothermap...ok...icanchaosoveramapmodandplaythisnextmap...itsustainsbutwhatdoiactuallygetoutsideofxp?nothing,everbasically,ifindanexaltonceevery100maps,oklasttimeitriedtocraft2suffixesonapairofglovesusingsuffixstrippingispent150exaltsandgotnothing.so1exaltisnothing,150exaltsisnothing.ipickup20,000itemspermapandyetsomehowthereare0itemsinthegamethatdropinmaps.thatsthehonestfeelingthatihavewhenplaying,wecandigintothatandsaywelltheresaltsandyourollurflasksandthatsgearetcetc,sure,butthe'feeling'igetisundeniablyirunmapsforxpanditemsdontexist. itsreallyhardtotryandfindabalancethere. theresathingwheretohavebuildvarietyyouneedbalance.soyoubalancewell,achievebuildvarietybecausealotofstuffhassimilarpowerlevels,achievegearvarietybecauseyouhavebuildvariety...butnowtheres300itemsthatareallroughlyequal,theyre'balanced'powerwise,andusagewise,sonowtheresnoparticulardemandforanygivenoneofthemandyouendupwith300uniquesworth1chaoseachthatfeellike'nothing'whentheydrop,despitebeingviableitemsthatareused.theresalsoaconflicttherebetween2goals,themoreyouachieveonetheworsetheotherbecomes,balancethatprovidesbuildvarietyvschaseitemsthatfeellikesomethingdroppedactuallyconflictwitheachother. ithinkwherethosetrainsofthoughtoftenleadisthatinordertomakeitfeellikestuffdropsyouneedtoreducehowmuchstuffdrops,whichiscounterintuitiveandhardtoselltoacrowd,espawilfullynegative,wilfullyignorantvocalminority.youneedtomakeall300ofthoseuniquesalothardertofindwhichwilloddlymakeplayingamapfeelmorerewardingbecauseyounowhavelesschanceoffindingthingsandthatmeanstheybegintohavevalueviascarcity. itshardtodothatwhenyouhavestufflikedivcardsinthegame:/...andwhenyouhaveacertaincrowdwhowillbeoutragedandclaimggghates'newplayers'and'offmetaplayers'and'peoplewithjobs'andonandon... PostedbySnorkle_ukonJul23,2021,6:50:10AMQuotethisPost Thisisjustfalseinformation.Youcanstillgetlevel4inallofthesegems,noproblematall.Whattheyremovedwasthewaytogetthemfromdrops. Ifyouwantthemnow,farmcardsorcorruptthemyourself. Carryonmywaypointson,there'llbepeacewhenmapsaredone. Layyourportalgemtorest,don'tyoudienomore. 'Causeit'sabittersweetsymphonythisleague. Trytomakemapsmeet,you'reaslavetothemeta,thenyouleave. PostedbyXavathosonJul23,2021,2:46:19PMQuotethisPost " adgharwrote: theywantyoutogetthebestpossibleCorruptedoutcomesbyCorruptingthings,notdroppingfromunrelatedLeaguemechanics. Notintroducingsuchthird-partydropsourcesinthefirstplaceiswhatsoberpeoplewoulddoBTW. Theonlyreliablewaytostoptheepidemyistoeliminateevenslightestchancetohaveacontactwithcontagiousperson/thing/creature/whatever. 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